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Fate/Grand Order - Miyamoto Musashi - 1/7 - Saber (Phat Company)Fate/Grand Order - Miyamoto Musashi - 1/7 - Saber (Phat Company)

Fate/Grand Order - Miyamoto Musashi - 1/7 - Saber (Phat Company)
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1/7  H=260mm (10.14in, 1:1=1.82m)
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11/2019 As Standard
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Absurd price. Sadly I'm going to have to pass.
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I hate that these prices are becoming more and more common... especially from Phat. They've proven themselves inconsistent in terms of quality before and I think that's unacceptable when we're dealing with such expensive products.

Maybe if I get a really good deal on TOM I'll consider it. Otherwise no.
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Available for pre-order @ Ninoma (MFC Partner) (¥20,769)

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XorKoS (27 dag(en) geleden) #52275827
This tends to be only true when there are no alternatives but we have a pretty good Mu figure already that costs a fraction of this one.
But I could be wrong? We'll see
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XorKoS (27 dag(en) geleden) #52275827
This tends to be only true when there are no alternatives but we have a pretty good Mu figure already that costs a fraction of this one.
But I could be wrong? We'll see
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Usually the trend is the more expensive a figure is the more expensive it gets in the aftermarket, because as you mentionned there is still less figure available in the aftermarket especially in the User to user side of the aftermarket, and personnaly i believe that the "well this figure is great but i don't want to pay that much" people changing their mind after release / reading good reviews makes a huge demand on that figure thus it being expensive.

Honestly when collecting stuff, if you want something just get it, waiting to see if it's price decrease is never a good idea, and personnaly if a price of a figure i own decrease after release i wouldn't even see it.

Edit : + Musashi is one of the most popular character in FGO .. ^^'
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Rapierre (1 maand(en) geleden) #52006127Wouldn't fewer pre-orders mean fewer figures produced, which means that there will only be a very small amount of this figure in the aftermarket, thereby increasing price regardless of other factors? Or do they always produce a set number of figures and send the rest to shops? I don't know much about figure production.

Fewer produce, yes, but they still have a set of number to produce. Also this number corresponds to the "initial demand". Companies strategy varies, but normally in production (as far as I know) goes something like this:

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Sets an target amount for their own shop (if any).
Target amount for direct partnered shops (AmiAmi for example).
Target amount for 3rd party orders (bulk).

Let's say an average figure they will be releasing after 10months..
They estimate around 500 units will suffice for their shop.
Total of 500 units among 4 partnered shops.
Around 300 units for 3rd party orders (bulk).

Now after first week of POers, the demand was higher that they expected.
Their shops already reached 400~ POs.
Out of 500 allocated to partnered shops, 3 of the 4 shops have already reached their reserved units, whle the 4th one has few units left.
For 3rd party orders, they have reached 150 in first week alone.

Now normally, if one area have sold out or nearing it, they can re-allocate some units from other areas to this area to accommodate the demand. But since they estimate the orders to increase in the span of 10months before release, they will increase the production (if possible).

That's why we often see POs that sold out early, open again after a month or two, because the main supply has confirmed they can increase production, and/or some POs have been cancelled. Also this production will always have a few "extras", in case of numbering error, and/or returns for defects.

If we go back to the original example, but assume that their estimate will suffice the market..
By release date (after 10 months), unit had 250~ POs, so they still have around 150 available to order on their shop.
Partnered shops will always get their allocated number, unless they request increase.
Let's say they had around the same sales, so the shops have plenty available to sell on/after release date.
3rd party orders only had 100 orders, so the remaining 200 they re-allocate to their own shop's stock or on partnered shops that had sold out early.

Again, this is just a quick and simple example of how it COULD go.


Rapierre (1 maand(en) geleden) #52006127
If you say that Musashi isn't really popular, then maybe having a figure of this size and quality for such a niche character completely justifies the high price. I'm still pre-ordering her, though. She was my first SSR and I don't really want to take risks with the aftermarket.


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I said she's not THAT popular, not that she isn't popular at all. That's why I mentioned in comparison to sabers/rin/shielder. Because if she isn't widely known/loved, the direct customers for their stuff would be 1.) Fans (like you) 2.) FGO collectors 3.) Specifically likes something about her (like her style, clothes, having two swords, or having purple hair). I concur on your decision to PO base on the details you have mentioned. I mean I did something similar to Attila. I don't know anything about her initially. I instantly fell in love with the design, sculpt, color, pose. She was made by GSC and had Huke collab. I POed her for 14k. 5months after release day, she is still available on AmiAmi for lesser price of 12k. Even lesser on pre-owned of A/B condition of 11k. Yes, I could've save like 2k yen if I waited. But no one really knows how the market will end up so the "risk" of not getting it and the price soaring up is a risk I did not take. Also no regrets on the 2k loss, because at the end of the day, I paid the base price. The regret of paying something like 2k-10k aftermarket increase hurts more than not paying less because of discounted price.


Rapierre (1 maand(en) geleden) #52006127Also:
On an unrelated note I don't think we should be using MFC numbers, since the main market is Japan and characters' popularity there differs greatly to the global audience. She could be the most popular non-Saberface saber in Japan for all we know


View spoilerHide spoilerI just used it since it's the only thing readily available. And in some way, does give us some idea of the "demand" of a particular product. Like in comparison, Alter Jeanne by Alter. That one is for sure going to have better quality than Phat Company's product (if we look at history). The price is also around 10k higher. Yet, it easily reached Top 3 most ordered very fast. I think it now has around 800~ POs MFC user numbers. So you could easily say the demand for that is all time high. But does it guarantee soaring aftermarket price?. Still no, but chances tilts more on maybe yes, right?.

Edit: added spoiler tags so that my wall of a comment doesn't take too much space. lol
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hieigodsend (1 maand(en) geleden) #51893802I'm no expert but I'm betting the aftermarket price won't be higher or not too high compared to original price. Reasons being: 1.) I don't think she's THAT popular compared to sabers/rin/masu/etc. 2.) Phat Company manufacturer (as far as I know) isn't THAT popular as well on both quality and fans side. Compared to like Alter/GSC/MF/etc. 3.) Gauging her PO numbers here in MFC, it's in the low percentage compared to others who are around 200~500 easy. 4.) Price is already too high, which again holds back people from POing it.


Wouldn't fewer pre-orders mean fewer figures produced, which means that there will only be a very small amount of this figure in the aftermarket, thereby increasing price regardless of other factors? Or do they always produce a set number of figures and send the rest to shops? I don't know much about figure production.

If you say that Musashi isn't really popular, then maybe having a figure of this size and quality for such a niche character completely justifies the high price. I'm still pre-ordering her, though. She was my first SSR and I don't really want to take risks with the aftermarket.

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hieigodsend (1 maand(en) geleden) #51893802Gauging her PO numbers here in MFC, it's in the low percentage compared to others who are around 200~500 easy.

On an unrelated note I don't think we should be using MFC numbers, since the main market is Japan and characters' popularity there differs greatly to the global audience. She could be the most popular non-Saberface saber in Japan for all we know
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Rapierre (1 maand(en) geleden) #51888888can anyone predict what the aftermarket price might be? Higher or lower?
And actually, looking at picture/2095844... she looks really huge. Have y'all not looked at the released pictures yet? Pretty decent quality for that size
It's only $159 USD (17,700 JPY) on AmiAmi. Why do people even order from other sites when AmiAmi literally always has the lowest market prices? They're much more lenient and responsive than 3 years ago.


I'm no expert but I'm betting the aftermarket price won't be higher or not too high compared to original price. Reasons being: 1.) I don't think she's THAT popular compared to sabers/rin/masu/etc. 2.) Phat Company manufacturer (as far as I know) isn't THAT popular as well on both quality and fans side. Compared to like Alter/GSC/MF/etc. 3.) Gauging her PO numbers here in MFC, it's in the low percentage compared to others who are around 200~500 easy. 4.) Price is already too high, which again holds back people from POing it.

I'm actually one of the people who POed her day 1 because I was trying to make a FGO collection going. Ultimately ended up cancelling her PO because I just decided to focus on the mainline/popular/characters that appeal to me.

Other people commonly go for TOM as alternative because they can pay affront and the savings add up when they do buy there a lot of times. Base price is higher but shipping + cash back + coupons add up. Other stores have cheaper shipping (EMS/etc) compared to AmiAmi sometimes. For me, I stick with AmiAmi everytime because like you said, they usually have the lowest price. Even though shipping is higher usually, the packaging, speed, and reliability is top notch. Also I can't pay upfront to TOM :(. Free shipping on other shops are usually the kind of shipping that takes 2-8 weeks as well to arrive. I got no patience to wait that long so I always stick with AmiAmi EMS (takes 4days to arrive) or Air Small Packet (9 days to arrive). Another thing with AmiAmi is that they ship products at their day 1 release date, compared to something like TOM, they "sometimes" take a month or two to ship after release date. Another reason I can think of people grabbing their stuff from other shop is that other shops are willing to reduce the price on the customs invoice, which lets them evade ridiculous tax. AmiAmi doesn't do this.
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can anyone predict what the aftermarket price might be? Higher or lower?

And actually, looking at picture/2095844... she looks really huge. Have y'all not looked at the released pictures yet? Pretty decent quality for that size

PeachnCream408 (2 maand(en) geleden) #47977152Around 17000 for this figure would seem fair
dontbedong (3 maand(en) geleden) #45865979
Maybe if I get a really good deal on TOM I'll consider it. Otherwise no.


It's only $159 USD (17,700 JPY) on AmiAmi. Why do people even order from other sites when AmiAmi literally always has the lowest market prices? They're much more lenient and responsive than 3 years ago.
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