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oroboruoroboru29 dag(en) geledenDiary
Started to copy my reviews and link them appropriately here.

I'd just like to say that it's an ungodly 9 am here on a workday, and I've been doing this for.. oh 30 minutes now, and already most of my reviews have gotten uninteresting votes.

THANK YOU, THAT ONE PERSON THAT IS TAKING TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY TO VOTE!!!

Thank goodness I have children, or else my fragile ego would have been crushed by this development.
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Maybe the "uninteresting" votes have something to do with the lack of photos in your reviews? People pretty much expect photos in reviews, I'd say.

Also, maybe don't post them all at the same time? Users might get annoyed with the front page getting flooded by your articles only...

Just trying to be helpful! :)
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oroboru (29 dag(en) geleden) #57793068As for photos, well if the system wasn't this archaic and limiting, I'd put pictures up. It's unfortunate, really.
What do you mean archaic? It’s about the same as every other blogging platform. You upload them and then add them to the article.
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tychodash (27 dag(en) geleden) #58018759Ironically, it's you who hasn't had it "sunk in" yet. Get gud != take advice. This translates to: when people throw a helpful suggestion your way, don't act like a child. As Venetica said, it's disappointing that this kind of article is coming from an attention-seeking, tantrum-throwing, grown man. None of the posts so far have equated to "being the thought police", no one is trying to censor what you write...which again, indicates that the conclusions you're forming from the posts made by others is indicative of a childish mentality. I honestly feel bad for you but hopefully you'll reflect on your silly posts and maybe grow up a little.

You still don't get it... all the advice and all that is great, but it's for how to write reviews and articles, which I have NO INTENTION OF EVER DOING EVER AGAIN. Why am I still receiving advice from yourself on how to LIVE MY LIFE, which has no reflection on any of the articles that I have NO INTENTION OF EVER WRITING.

You're here effectively complaining about my lack of reflection on a topic I have no interesting in pursing - I'm perfectly happy just lurking here with zero further interaction with the people in the form of a written article.

Your request that I take this down and start over effectively is not so much advice with regards to my work, which I have, again NO INTEREST IN PURSING, but rather trying to mould me into an efficient and same minded member here which, again, I'm happy just lurking.

If your request to take this down is not considered censoring, I have no idea what you think it actually is.

By now, I suspect this is no longer on the front page, yet you keep coming back to comment. Why do you feel the need to do so? Do you seriously have nothing better to do? Because in my case, I don't have anything better to do than to respond to these comments.
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oroboru (28 dag(en) geleden) #57895192Not a fan of sarcasm, huh?
Perhaps the 16 times I've said this hasn't sunk in.... I'm here for the entertainment factor, that's it.
I appreciate the help I've gotten, and I've decided that I don't care enough to actually contribute written articles.
I have not gone out of my way to troll people with comments or whatever on their pages... so, why are people coming here to effectively tell me to "get gud"?
Or perhaps do you like harassing grown men? ;P
Why would I delete this post when it's a post I made sober and more importantly, it's how I felt at the time, on my diary. Are you perhaps the thought police? As another has said, that's close to censorship, and that's bad.


Ironically, it's you who hasn't had it "sunk in" yet. Get gud != take advice. This translates to: when people throw a helpful suggestion your way, don't act like a child. As Venetica said, it's disappointing that this kind of article is coming from an attention-seeking, tantrum-throwing, grown man. None of the posts so far have equated to "being the thought police", no one is trying to censor what you write...which again, indicates that the conclusions you're forming from the posts made by others is indicative of a childish mentality. I honestly feel bad for you but hopefully you'll reflect on your silly posts and maybe grow up a little.
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Venetica (28 dag(en) geleden) #57841792I'll bite. I downvoted this article because it serves no other purpose than to be an attention-seeking tantrum. Furthermore, this behavior is coming from a grown man.
You mentioned that you didn't even care about the negative feedback, and yet this article exists proving otherwise. Your profile also says "«Writer of the least interesting articles ever!»". Not a hint of salt there, huh?
My advice to you would be to have some dignity. Delete this childish article and start fresh. The people who have posted in this thread thus far have gone out of their way to help you, hugtower in particular. Be a little more receptive next time.


Not a fan of sarcasm, huh?

Perhaps the 16 times I've said this hasn't sunk in.... I'm here for the entertainment factor, that's it.

I appreciate the help I've gotten, and I've decided that I don't care enough to actually contribute written articles.

I have not gone out of my way to troll people with comments or whatever on their pages... so, why are people coming here to effectively tell me to "get gud"?

Or perhaps do you like harassing grown men? ;P

Why would I delete this post when it's a post I made sober and more importantly, it's how I felt at the time, on my diary. Are you perhaps the thought police? As another has said, that's close to censorship, and that's bad.
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indian_summer22 (28 dag(en) geleden) #57844053In no way does thay disprove my point. These pages abuse different parts of human nature to suppress the human desire to commicate, to express themselves. Its a complicated process, so Iam not going to pull out all the linguistic details here as it would not serve a purpose here other than prove my point. But if you do agree that people should be allowed to express their opinion, then dont start yelling when they actually do. I have had a very negative experience when posting too (problem was rather the tone and choice of words than the actual criticism), so I know its tough. But its absolutely necessary to deal with it (and you can turn off the interesting thing).
As has been said by others: You have gotten good and detailed feedback by others. Take a step back and calm down. Then you can start to assess the info you got and decide which parts you might agree with. Just as people are free to react to your stuff, you can chose what to make of their input.


I.. don't think you get it.

I understand people have commented, and I understand they expressed their feelings and so on. I understand I've gotten feedback and that if I wish to actually be productive and so on here I should heed their words.

My question is.. I've said already, it's not worth my time to actually care about any of this stuff so I'm happy to not write anything.

Why do you presume I'm taking this poorly? Because I'm simply letting those in a better position/mindset actually tackle this matter? I'm only responding here so that people don't get the impression that I AM huffy - it's just the polite thing to do.

If there was no responses here, I'd just let this page sit here because well, I'm too lazy to delete it.

Else, it's simply something to get more comments and talking.
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oroboru (28 dag(en) geleden) #57840579I generally agree with you - it's a great feeling to interact with others, even if the feedback is negative. Helps you learn and so forth, presuming it is legitimate feedback. Sometimes, that button is simply pressed because people just like to downvote things.
Again, no harm no foul. But the downvote button did not exist back then - you actually had to write, in words, that you weren't happy.
As for your second point.. I can think of several Reddit pages and Facebook pages that operate on the "praise me or else" methodology, so it's not as foreign a concept as you would think. And yes, those pages are thriving.


In no way does thay disprove my point. These pages abuse different parts of human nature to suppress the human desire to commicate, to express themselves. Its a complicated process, so Iam not going to pull out all the linguistic details here as it would not serve a purpose here other than prove my point. But if you do agree that people should be allowed to express their opinion, then dont start yelling when they actually do. I have had a very negative experience when posting too (problem was rather the tone and choice of words than the actual criticism), so I know its tough. But its absolutely necessary to deal with it (and you can turn off the interesting thing).

As has been said by others: You have gotten good and detailed feedback by others. Take a step back and calm down. Then you can start to assess the info you got and decide which parts you might agree with. Just as people are free to react to your stuff, you can chose what to make of their input.
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On that note, little hint, whichever way you go - I'm also not exactly a fan of up- and downvoting. Too easy and leaves too much room for misinterpretation and isn't the most useful kind of feedback either; personally, I prefer feedback that contains actual words and can be used as a basis for exchange.

Before posting an article, you can turn off the voting features, so if people care, you'll get proper feedback in the comments as opposed to a bunch of numbers that may or may not be the result of people glossing over and going with the flow.

Then again, I think people usually misinterpret "uninteresting" too negatively, possibly because it's the only option next to "interesting". Based on the way it sounds, "uninteresting" seems to imply more of a middle ground, something between "like" and "don't like", more along the lines of "don't care/not applicable".
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This is so dumb.....
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oroboru (28 dag(en) geleden) #57840579But the downvote button did not exist back then - you actually had to write, in words, that you weren't happy.
I'll bite. I downvoted this article because it serves no other purpose than to be an attention-seeking tantrum. Furthermore, this behavior is coming from a grown man.

You mentioned that you didn't even care about the negative feedback, and yet this article exists proving otherwise. Your profile also says "«Writer of the least interesting articles ever!»". Not a hint of salt there, huh?

My advice to you would be to have some dignity. Delete this childish article and start fresh. The people who have posted in this thread thus far have gone out of their way to help you, hugtower in particular. Be a little more receptive next time.
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indian_summer22 (28 dag(en) geleden) #57834441If you post something to a public audience, it should not come as a surprise that this audience will react publically to your post. Be it negative or positive. Just as you express something, people will (and so they should) express their opinion to the information you shared. That's how human communication has worked for centuries. "Agree with me/ praise me or shut up" is not only against basic rules of human interaction but also too close to censorship for comfort.

I generally agree with you - it's a great feeling to interact with others, even if the feedback is negative. Helps you learn and so forth, presuming it is legitimate feedback. Sometimes, that button is simply pressed because people just like to downvote things.

Again, no harm no foul. But the downvote button did not exist back then - you actually had to write, in words, that you weren't happy.

As for your second point.. I can think of several Reddit pages and Facebook pages that operate on the "praise me or else" methodology, so it's not as foreign a concept as you would think. And yes, those pages are thriving.
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oroboru (29 dag(en) geleden) #57833144It's not so much the lack of positive feedback, it's more the surplus of negative feedback. In the sense that I didn't even know there was a negative feedback option - used to be either you liked it or you just ignored it. I guess with the passage of time, people like the option of being able to dislike something.
Having said that, it's not a big deal to me - I've got my pictures hosted somewhere that I can retain them at full quality, which is ultimately more important to me.
It's all good.


If you post something to a public audience, it should not come as a surprise that this audience will react publically to your post. Be it negative or positive. Just as you express something, people will (and so they should) express their opinion to the information you shared. That's how human communication has worked for centuries. "Agree with me/ praise me or shut up" is not only against basic rules of human interaction but also too close to censorship for comfort.
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