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brandymallorybrandymallory4 jaar geledenAsk MFC
Good day MFC!

I was reading an article today, about "The War On Cosplay" which can be found here: www.bleedingcoo...

Now, while I don't really want to go into the whole "is cosplay killing everything" discussion because that is a whole other bit of nonsense that would make a fire, there was a bit I wanted to discuss from one of the people quoted in it:


"Raymond Lui It’s a weird dichotomy. I sell Japanese toys & collectibles at shows, but I’ve noticed that cosplayers, who one would assume are my target audience, buy the least amount of stuff from me. The regular attendees not in costume are much more reasonable and willing to support the industry rather than stand all day wearing costumes hoping someone will take a photo of them. That being said, I never attend or vend at a show that doesn’t have a large comic creator presence. I’m a fan of comics, so unless there’s a good amount of writers & artists, both as a fan and a business owner, cosplayers bring nothing to me."


I personally think that's total BS.

Cosplay is the reason I got into figures & collectibles in the first place (The Neru who spawned my love of nendoroids, bought entirely cause I was going to be cosplaying her PICTURE #240765)

I think more cosplayers shop out of costume a lot of the times (when they have pockets and bags), as well as they spent a lot of money on their costumes, and thus might not be able to buy tons at the convention.

Plus, I personally don't spend much at conventions because what they have I usually already bought for cheaper online. Convention prices are often way off, and the risk of bootlegs are high, and perhaps cosplayers who know their stuff simply don't risk it.

(He also notes in his second comment that "I had to boot him out of my booth" in regards to a cosplayer who was asking questions about these comics he loves, if I noticed a shop keep being rude to people new to the hobby I wouldn't want to shop there either)

So what do you guys think about the accusation that Cosplayers spend less than non-cosplayers on collectibles/merch? Do you think they're 'not supporting the industry'?

(Please keep this a civil discussion guys)
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I think that's horseshit. I spend way more on figures than cosplay xD At my last convention, I did most of my spending out of costume as the dealer's hall opened in the morning and I didn't want to get there late because I was getting into my costume. The dealer's hall is easily the most crowded room in a convention and if your costume has delicate or bulky parts, or if you have props, then you kinda want to avoid that as much as possible, so I agree that most people likely shop out of costume. Also, most cosplays don't tend to be terribly comfy after a little while (especially if it's a summer con and you're wearing a wig and more than one or two layers), so the last thing I want to be doing when I'm already hot and bothered is carrying around a load of merchandise in a very warm and stuffy dealer's room.

That said, I also don't tend to buy that much at conventions. I go with an idea in mind and tend to pass on things if I can get them considerably cheaper online; though I don't mind paying a bit more for convenience, I won't support dealers that mark up their prices loads) and go more to mingle and attend panels. I'm also more interested in the tables of hand-crafted and unique goods, rather than the things I can get elsewhere. If people aren't buying from your table maybe there's a problem with what you're selling rather than the mindset of the attendees.

Finally - I don't really see why this person is expecting cosplayers to also be collectors. It's kind of like saying all people that love reading books should also be huge film lovers because sometimes books are adapted into films. People like what they like, and shitting on one group of people because they like a different aspect of The Thing is childish. Cosplayers aren't obliged to support "the industry" just because their hobby has an overlap of interest. They paid for their tickets so they have as much right to be there as everyone else, whether they spend £100 in the dealer's hall or £1. "Nothing of value"? Please. I think some people need to get off their elitist horses and smell the coffee.

Also - all the comments in the article are from men. The photo used is of female cosplayers, and one of the comments specifically mentions female cosplayers. HMM.
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Honestly all i am seeing here is people trying to make themselves feel better with those comments.

I am a cosplayer and i am pretty sure i spend much more in this collecting hobby then most non cosplaying hobbists. Its just a matter of buying this in a physical events or not. Honestly i would never ever buy figures or what on in an event. Its too much of a risk trying to think whether or not is it real or bootleg. Or even the prices are jist ridiculous.

Of course there is another factor that you might want to think about is that the amount of money you spend on just a costume. Its ridiculously expensive and impossible to earn shit. Money going out and none coming in,equals lesser budget for figures. Thus cosplayers have to scrap and find other means.

In short,dont judge unless you tried it before. I would love to see them trying it out before complaining.
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Man, I have bought quite a lot of figures with the purpose of reference material for my costume!!! And although I spend a lot of money on my cosplay-hobby, I still spend more on my figure-hobby.

Each person is different though, I think the people they are mainly talking about are the "famous" cosplayers, who indeed, sell their own pictures and try to make a living (or at least earn a bit extra) with their costume hobby. Not all cosplayers are like that.

About cosplaying being narcissistic, maybe it is a bit. But to be honest when a picture is being made from me. I'm more happy/proud of people liking my finished costumes instead of having my own face on a picture.

Something a little different, but lots of times I've felt like cosplaying can be a sort of free advertisement for the series or characters. Lots of times I have had people come up to me to ask what series I was from and showing and interest in it. In a way that is free advertising... :P
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4Arnd (4 jaar geleden) #2498351That's what I found during the European Cosplay finals at the MCM, when they announce the winners and participants have already changed out of their Cosplay.

Yep,yep. At least I can say that I easily recognize faces though.
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4Arnd 4ア一ンド
Mew-Lidia9 (4 jaar geleden) #2497883...it's not really easy to reconise them...

That's what I found during the European Cosplay finals at the MCM, when they announce the winners and participants have already changed out of their Cosplay.
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I went to conventions in until September, I stopped because of school and exams.
When I went to conventions I used to cosplay and sometimes I bought figures or goods (most of the times they were bootlegs/chinese version) because I was short of money, just one or two things, it depended on my budget.
When I stopped cosplaying I got more and more interested in collecting nendoroids and, in my view, this hobby suits me in a better way. At the moment I only buy figures or goods from online shops, they're cheaper, even with the shipping price included! (sorry if my english is not that good)
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Chloe-tsundere The louise otaku
LOL it is just that starters fall for high inflated prices.. ^^" and those who dont cosplay.. It is usually their first time going to a convention. Tbh when i see someone almost buying a super expensive figure.. I whisper some advice ;)

Im still new to the cosplay scene and not too good at it but im experienced in the figure world tho

Ofc there are exceptions :)
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Same as everyone, I think the cosplayers just know better than to buy (possibly bootleg) figures at exorbitant prices at cons. They probably know that they can get a better deal online, that is, if they haven't already own the figures already. I think these stall owners are just whinging, "Wah, nobody is willing to be scalped by me!" >_>

And even if cosplayers are willing to buy from stalls, it's more likely that they'll do so out of costume. After all, it'll be hard to haul around loot all dressed up.
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Um.... how do they think cosplayers don't contribute? It's weird, as others have said before, cosplayers don't really go to the stalls while in cosplay, and it's not really easy to reconise them as cosplayers when they aren't in cosplay. Big example, this year I cosplayed Shesshomaru from Inuyasha.... extremely high maintenance, so I decided to do my shopping while out of cosplay. Our cosplay community is small, so everyone pretty much knows everyone, and many of them had to take a second look to realize it was me. And I'm sure, like people who watch plays, some people would go to cons because they want to watch the comp, like my first time, and while they wait, they could brows the stalls and such.

But anyway, the only stuff I buy at cons are things I can't get online, cause if its authentic, the price is blown out of proportion e.g. ITEM #126835 saw her 'cheap' for 19000 yen, and if its not overly expensive, it's still expensive, but a bootleg. So I know better than to buy figures at cons.

Not sure about others, but I spend most(50-60%) of my money i have at the time at cons, the rest is for my online purchases, which are much better deals.

In the end I can agree some cosplayers are weird, although I haven't experienced it locally, we do what we do cause we love the characters and shows they come from. But the people who gave comments there KNOW NOTHING!!!!

I mainly co to cons to meet others who are in the same hobbies as me and to be part of the community, if I can get some merch or enjoy a character bu cosplaying them, then all the better!!!!!!!!!!!
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GollyGeeItsBoo SHSL Saniwa
Wow. I can't even believe how rude those comments are. All because people cosplay doesn't mean they're narcissistic. It means that they have a love for a series or a character that they just want to express. The one that really pisses me off though is the comment about "overweight women looking foolish". That's just messed up. Some people don't care about their body type and are comfortable enough to do what they want. And you know what, good for them.

I have to agree mostly with what everyone else is saying. Most of the time figures are extremely over priced at conventions. And they also might not take into consideration that people searching the booth might already have what's there or are simply not interested in the pieces you're selling. And if they are, they'll probably come back out of cosplay to purchase it. I purposely plan my cosplays for the weekend around the dealers room. Friday's are my semi-simple cosplays where I can still go into the dealers room and check it out. But more than likely I won't buy anything. I'll do my main cosplay with the most pieces/weapons/props on Saturday, attend photoshoots, meet other people, and check out some panels rather than go back to the dealers room I've already seen. And then I'll wait until Sunday to do my actual shopping, which is what most people do. This is because people are in either simplier cosplays or no cosplay because that is the end of the convention. Who want's to get back into the car on the way home with a bunch of armor on? The second reason for Sunday shopping is because a lot of dealers do price cuts and have more deals just so they can sell more. I don't think that these people understand that a lot of their customers probably are cosplayers, just not in costume. And even if they're not, there is no reason to ridicule cosplayers and say that they bring nothing to the convention. obviously they do considering the amount of photos/photoshoots. It's one of the most important, exciting aspects of a convention, I think.
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xcupidxstuntx (4 jaar geleden) #2497367
That said, I also don't tend to buy that much at conventions. I go with an idea in mind and tend to pass on things if I can get them considerably cheaper online; though I don't mind paying a bit more for convenience, I won't support dealers that mark up their prices loads) and go more to mingle and attend panels. I'm also more interested in the tables of hand-crafted and unique goods, rather than the things I can get elsewhere. If people aren't buying from your table maybe there's a problem with what you're selling rather than the mindset of the attendees.


My thoughts exactly. Shopping has never been a key part of my con-going experience; I go for the social and learning opportunities, and to have a good time cosplaying with friends. The money save by shopping online helps to offset my travel and cosplay expenses, so it's definitely a matter of personal priorities and budgeting. The few purchases I have made were small gifts for friends who don't usually seek out character goods, but love having the odd keychain or bookmark from a series they like. My friends like different series than I do so it's a matter of whether something small suddenly catches my eye and reminds me of them. If it's handmade, even better!
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